I currently have a '13 diesel X5 BMW that is adequate for the towing that I do, but I’ve put off having a pickup for far too long and I am in the market for a 2.7 EB pickup. Just from my searching, it seems that the proper years would be '15-'17 so I don’t have to mess with replacing a transmission. That being said, those options are now 10 years old and they all have a bit of mileage on them. I would like to see what people have for high mileage on these engines. Is starting with a pickup that has 100k going to be reliable?
Reddit/the internet is a biased place, so while there’s always elements of truth, it also exaggerates things. There are over 5 million F150s on the road right now with the 10-speed. Ford would be out of business if the transmission had the amount of problems you hear about on Reddit.
@Bliss
That is undeniably true; I was basing it off the class action lawsuit that seems to keep popping up. That and the fact that my current vehicle has the ZF6 in it and hasn’t skipped a beat in the 150k I’ve put on it.
@Asher
Class action lawsuits seem to be a dime a dozen. Go to Google and type in ‘xxx’ class action lawsuit. Honda, Toyota, Ram, Ford, Subaru, etc. They’re out there for everyone, it seems.
This sub is mostly filled with guys that trade up every few years and never own a truck out of warranty, not really the best audience.
I have a 2015 2.7, 155k miles. I’ve only put 30k of those on it. The fuel pump quit on me last year, and the torque converter started shuddering; a fluid change and additive fixed that for now.
I’d personally rather have the older, cheaper truck. Aside from the torque converter issues, the 6R80 is a very tough transmission. The earlier models do not have a rubber belt for the oil pump, either.
There are many 1st gen 3.5s with 200k+ miles on them, and the 2.7 is built better; there’s no reason why they shouldn’t go that long.
You will have more maintenance and repairs. Leaks, accessory drive issues, and suspension wear all start to surface once you’re past 150k or so. Most of that stuff is inexpensive and relatively simple, though.
Financially, buying mine was a rather poor choice. My interest rate was really good, but it’s still very high historically. If you can buy cash, I would still prefer the older truck, but if financing, dealers are more willing to negotiate on new models right now. Even in a slower market, I’m still seeing these trucks with reasonable mileage going for $20k.
@Chen
I’ve seen a large number of 3.5s with many miles; just not the 2.7s, and I don’t have anyone that owns one personally to prod for information.
Asher said:
@Chen
I’ve seen a large number of 3.5s with many miles; just not the 2.7s, and I don’t have anyone that owns one personally to prod for information.
There are about half as many 2.7 trucks out there compared to 3.5s, using CarGurus national search in this year range.
So you don’t see them as much, and they have fewer issues overall. Kind of a sleeper in that regard.
The 2.7 was designed for turbos from the start; it doesn’t even have exhaust manifolds (big issue on the 3.5s). The turbos bolt right to the heads, and they also have much fewer cam chain and phaser issues.
Question about the fuel issue. Was it the high-pressure pump or the lift pump?
Asher said:
Question about the fuel issue. Was it the high-pressure pump or the lift pump?
Lift pump, the one in the tank. $250 for the Motorcraft replacement from RockAuto; I changed it myself.
I bought a 2016 with 48,000 miles and got a 5-year warranty. They’re out there; just gotta look real good.
I bought a new F150, a '24 with a 2.7 liter. I love it; I would rather have peace of mind knowing that the first 60,000-mile motor and trans are covered. You can buy an extended warranty for a few thousand more to cover everything. I just don’t trust financing or buying used cars anymore. The last two vehicles I bought new were money pits.
@Wilder
I won’t buy a new vehicle; fastest way to lose money in my opinion. I’d rather buy something that is even slightly used. I’d prefer a certified used pickup if I can find one.
I have a 2018 2.7 EB, 10-speed, bought it brand new, currently at 68k miles.
I have had 3 issues so far:
2017 2.7 4x4 Lariat SuperCrew here, bought used in January 2020 with 24k on it; it’s got 124k now. I had to have an oil pipe on one of the turbos replaced, covered by Ford. The only other issue I’ve had is a leaking rear pinion seal; I changed that myself a few weeks ago; it tested my home DIY limits.
I’ve got the 6R80 transmission; no issues. I tow my tractor 3-4 times per year with it, roughly 7000 lbs including the trailer, and it does well.
At this point, it’s been the best vehicle I’ve ever owned out of about 20.
@Kumi
Great information; I’m a machinist and maintenance mechanic by trade, so DIY is the only way for me unless someone else foots the bill. The problem is I’ve become Mr. Mom, and it’s hard to be a nanny and a mechanic, so I would prefer something as reliable as possible.
I have a 2017 SuperCab 6’ 4x4 and have really loved it. I bought it with 30k miles and am currently at about 104k. It really hasn’t needed much at all, and you can keep costs low shipping for used parts and taking off parts.
Maintenance issues have been:
- Hard shift from 1-2, replaced fluid and it helped
- Spark plug replacements; tried 3 different plugs that were supposedly direct replacements but misfired like crazy. Finally found another Ford part that runs smooth.
- Stuck caliper slide pin that managed to eat two sets of rotors and pads before I figured it out.
- Front seats foam is sagging on the outside edge; Amazon has aftermarket foam I’ll be dropping in.
- Sync USB connections to phones were super fritzy, so I dropped in a Maestro and aftermarket wireless CarPlay stereo.
- Mystery coolant leak; haven’t had time to track this down, but I hear the turbo fittings and lower surge tank hose are common culprits.
- 2 sets of tires; the first replacement set was Craigslist $150 for 100-mile RAM 1500 takeoffs.
I’m considering selling it this year just to try and stay off the maintenance treadmill of an older car… or digging in to ride it till it dies with some drop-in CR turbos and bolt-ons…but I’ve been stroking my chin about a Lightning instead. Definitely would buy another F150 though; it’s been unstoppable, wildly capable, relatively fuel-efficient (17-23 MPG), and a lot of fun to drive.
@Nuri
Would you consider the SuperCab family-friendly? I’ve found some killer deals on SuperCabs but don’t want to wish for four real doors in the future.
2021 F150 2.7 SuperCrew with 85k miles as of today. Been a rock-solid truck and tow vehicle. Average between 20-24 MPG on the daily grind (80-85 miles each day), 16.5-18 MPG towing a 6000 lb load every two months.
I tuned the truck, which helped with the transmission’s clunky nature. I changed the fluid at 60k and will change again at 120k just to be sure.
Truck has some new parts coming to freshen it up:
- Bilstein 4600’s
- NGK Ruthenium Spark Plugs gapped to .28
- Raybestos Element 3 Pads + Motorcraft Rotors + Brake Fluid Flush
- 275/60R20 Yokohama Geolander G015’s (current Atturo TrailBlade ATS tires are JUNK. NEVER AGAIN)
I’ve drag raced it, towed regularly and daily driven it year-round. Truck has been flawless.
My brother has a 2015 with 340,000 miles on it. He just replaced the throttle body and the alternator about 5000 miles ago. He also replaced the brakes, and that’s about it. He changes the oil every 5000 miles.
His is the 2.7 Ecoboost crew cab 6.5 bed. Oh, and he changed his spark plugs for the first time last week.
@Tan
That is what I’m talking about. I keep vehicles until they no longer suit my needs, so seeing that they last that long is great.