Seems like newer trucks just aren’t holding up like they used to. What do you all think?
Anything made in the last 3-4 years, it’s really just luck whether you get a reliable one or not.
Hollis said:
Anything made in the last 3-4 years, it’s really just luck whether you get a reliable one or not.
Right? It feels like the newer they are, the more problems they have.
Hollis said:
Anything made in the last 3-4 years, it’s really just luck whether you get a reliable one or not.
Right? It feels like the newer they are, the more problems they have.
My dealer said the new 2021+ models have 1700 chips in each truck. That’s 1700 chips!
@Tatum
Maybe he should stop eating chips in the truck then, might make it less messy. Seriously though, sounds like it’s packed with tech.
Ray said:
@Tatum
Maybe he should stop eating chips in the truck then, might make it less messy. Seriously though, sounds like it’s packed with tech.
Haha, apparently, he’s a big fan of Doritos too.
@Tatum
Doritos in the engine, maybe that’s the problem!
Ray said:
@Tatum
Maybe he should stop eating chips in the truck then, might make it less messy. Seriously though, sounds like it’s packed with tech.
Airbags… oh wait, wrong chips.
@Tatum
What does all that tech even do? The main problems are still with the engines and transmissions, not the electronics.
F-150s have issues with the EcoBoost cam phasers and 10-speed transmissions. The 5.0 engines had oil consumption problems, though they may have fixed it now.
GM trucks still have problems with their AFM system. The 6.2 engines tend to have random failures.
Ram’s 5.7 engines have DOD problems and water pump issues with the turbo six.
Toyota’s 5.7 engines drink gas like there’s no tomorrow, and the turbo six seems hit or miss.
Nissan might be the best deal out there. Haven’t heard much about major issues except for the diesel V8, but that’s discontinued now.
@Finian
Yeah, I was just saying these trucks are getting more complicated than they need to be. 1700 chips? That’s crazy!
Tatum said:
@Finian
Yeah, I was just saying these trucks are getting more complicated than they need to be. 1700 chips? That’s crazy!
I agree. They keep adding unnecessary features. If you want a locker axle and fog lights, you end up having to get the leather seats, sunroof, and upgraded navigation.
Also, a lot of vehicle information is integrated into the infotainment system. Not great for long-term durability, right?
@Finian
Exactly, and have you seen the price for a replacement screen? $1500 or more!
@Finian
My 2017 Nissan needed a new engine at 60,000 km and is getting a new transmission soon at 115,000 km. Both are known problems, the 7-speed transmission is a mess, and a lot of the engines had cylinder issues.
Hollis said:
Anything made in the last 3-4 years, it’s really just luck whether you get a reliable one or not.
Crazy how after all this time, we still don’t have reliable engines and transmissions.
Depends on the model. Tundras are having engine problems, and F-150s have transmission issues 
but I think the F-150 has a better interior.
Wylie said:
Depends on the model. Tundras are having engine problems, and F-150s have transmission issues
To be fair, Toyota did recall the affected trucks with the turbo V6. You don’t see companies doing recalls for expensive problems like that very often. Ford’s been dealing with cam phasers and transmission issues for years and hasn’t fixed it properly.
@Drew
Well, not all of them. They only recalled the ones they thought had the metal shavings in the engine.
Briley said:
@Drew
Well, not all of them. They only recalled the ones they thought had the metal shavings in the engine.
I’m looking at a Tundra tomorrow, and they told me it’s on the list for a new engine. It’s a 2024 model, and it seems like almost every 2023 is affected too. That’s actually one of the reasons I’m considering it. You wouldn’t see a U.S. company doing this without a legal battle first.
@Drew
At the end of the day, it’s about what costs more—fixing the problem or dealing with lawsuits. Toyota probably figured it was cheaper to do the recall.
Parker said:
@Drew
At the end of the day, it’s about what costs more—fixing the problem or dealing with lawsuits. Toyota probably figured it was cheaper to do the recall.
Some friends who own Tacomas have said the Toyota dealerships aren’t always great. They can really overcharge if you don’t know much about what needs to be fixed.