Hey everyone I know this is a common question but I’ve spent about 6 hours reading every forum and I just feel lost now lol. I’m looking at buying my first nice vehicle, and I’m trying to decide which year of F150 to get with the 2.7
I know gen 1 of 2.7 is 2015-17 and gen 2 is 2018+. But I can’t seem to find a good answer on which one is better, constantly reading the 10speed transmission sucks but seems like all the gen 2 have this transmission?
I’m planning on buying one with around 100,000kms as this is in my price range.
I just really don’t want to spend all this money on a truck and find out I bought a bad year or POS lol. Any advice on this engine and which years is the best? Appreciate you
Plus I’ve heard of less leaking oil pans with gen 2.
OP - I’ve had a gen 1 and a gen 2. The gen 2 has been problem free whereas my gen 1 was always leaking something or had some kind of little thing popping up. Got rid of my gen 1 at 70k miles and my gen 2 currently has 60k on it
Yep. Got the 10 speed in my 2019. I’ve had it reprogrammed once and had a trans fluid flush. It still has a delayed shift out of 3rd sometimes when it’s cold but I’ll get it looked at eventually (it’s why I specifically got the Ford extended warranty until 2028 or 120k miles)
@Davin
Makes sense. Too bad u can’t get the gen 2 in a 6 speed hey. What is fords factory warranty? Maybe I’ll get the extended warranty too since I’m planning on buying one around 100,000kms
Tatum said: @Davin
Makes sense. Too bad u can’t get the gen 2 in a 6 speed hey. What is fords factory warranty? Maybe I’ll get the extended warranty too since I’m planning on buying one around 100,000kms
I got mine from Ziegler Ford online. They sell the PremiumCare at like $50 above their cost. There’s a few dealers like that where you can buy cheap online.
Depending on the year you get, they may require you to get an inspection done at a dealer. I think it was like $199 for mine if I remember right
@Tatum
Ten speed issues largely fixed with the Aug 2022 revision. Fleet owners report a low percentage of failure rates with the 10 speeds. Some people don’t like some of the shifting characteristics, but if you find one that has been maintained (fluid changes every 60k or so) you’ll probably be fine.
The 2.7 is a great choice regardless of the generation.
Yes, every generation 2 2.7 is paired to the 10R80. Yes, it has a bad reputation, just like the 4L60E does. Does that mean there aren’t reliable 10R80 equipped trucks on the road? No.
I am aware that they recalled 2021-2022 2.7s for an intake manifold that they replaced for the 2023 model year. Generation 2 also has an oil line that runs to the turbo after the truck is shut off, preventing any heatsoak.
I usually let it idle for 30 seconds before getting out anyway. It’s a habit I picked up driving a 2016 3.5. Speaking of the 3.5, the 2.7 doesn’t have the camshaft phaser issues that the 2015-2017 3.5 did, even the gen 1.
I have a 2024 2.7 now, but I drive a 2015 2.7 at work. If you’re worried about the transmission, find a nice generation 1 with the 6-speed. I have no complaints about my 10R80 yet.
Gabi said: @Fenn
Th 4L60E has a bad reputation? News to me. It’s just the opposite, actually.
It always has. Perhaps I am “chronically online.” I, however, never had a negative experience with my 2011 Silverado 1500. I had a friend who lost reverse twice, though.
@Fenn
reverse was slipping on my silverado also… traded it for my 2016 F150 2.7 and was very happy with it. 8 years and no problems at all. I couldn’t make it 8 months without issues with the Chevy.
@Aki
Yeah, I still have a soft spot for Chevrolet, though, especially GMT900s (2007 - 2013). Can’t beat the sound of a 4.8 Vortec downshifting and bouncing off of the limiter.
@Fenn
What’s the reason for letting it idle for 30 seconds? Thanks for the advice, the confusing thing for me is that gen 2 sounds better then gen 1, but if gen 2 only comes with 10 speed transmission then its like wtf do u decide lol.
@Tatum
Hey, buddy, don’t overthink it. We have 2 generation 1 2.7s with a crap-load of idle hours and kilometers with no issues.
The reason for letting it idle before shutting the truck off is to allow oil to cycle through the turbo while it spools down. If you let the turbo spool quickly and then shut the truck off, it cuts off oil pressure to the turbo while it cools. A Ford tech told me about that, especially for the 3.5. They solved this with the 2.7L by using a return line.
Honestly, I would buy a generation 1 with the six-speed if I were in your shoes. I prefer the way the transmission shifts over my 2024 with the 10R80.
Another thing that I will mention is high-idling. When I cold start my '24 and the '15 at work, it has a programmed high-idle. It’s usually about 2,250RPM. I wait until it drops to the lower idle speed before driving off.
@Fenn
Ok sweet so u don’t gotta worry about letting it idle before shutting off with the 2.7. That’s what I’m thinking too is go with a 2016-2017 2.7. I heard they updated the infotainment in 2016.
Tatum said: @Fenn
Ok sweet so u don’t gotta worry about letting it idle before shutting off with the 2.7. That’s what I’m thinking too is go with a 2016-2017 2.7. I heard they updated the infotainment in 2016.
2016 comes with sync 3 if you get a STX or XLT 302a or higher trim. Big improvement over the MFT in the 2015. definately worth taking 2015 off your search
The big thing is gen2s have dual injection so you don’t have the carbon building issues the gen1s have a higher mileage. That said both generations are pretty reliable. When I was in the market for a truck 2 years ago I specifically wanted the 15-17 2.7. Honestly I’d just get the truck with the best maintenance records